What is this Voodoo5 ? Agp 4x Support ?

Started by sloomy, 15 October 2003, 00:42:02

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Rolo01

#15
16 October 2003, 09:48:17
Ok, lets get this straight.
I have a V5-5000 that looks like the 5500 shown above, it has the AGP 4x notch but is missing the DVI port.
Can I really put this baby into a 1.5V only AGP slot ?
I remember some old cards ( like Riva TNT or Savage ) having that notch but they were true 3.3V cards...
The last thing I want is to blow up that V5 and/or my mainboard...
 

amp_man

#16
16 October 2003, 20:44:57
does it have the place to install a DVI connector, i.e. the sodier points? if so, it is just like sloomy's, and if not it still should work (although you might wait for someone else to second this), in the 1.5V slot. i think the Savage and i know the TNT was an nVidia card, that should explain it...

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Hiero

#17
16 October 2003, 21:41:58
Although many Voodoo cards (including the V4 4500) have these notches, non of them will actually run with 1,5V. They will be destroyed, so don't even try it.
Obviously many of these engeneering samples were sold; There was a Voodoo5 5500 AGP DVI on ebay and the seller simply found it in his computer. That's the same thing with the 5000. Probably many people do have such an oem card in their pc without even knowing what some people would pay for it. @ Rolo: Where did you get your 5000 from ?

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bloodworm

#18
16 October 2003, 22:28:09
hiero knows nothing.  the V4 IS a true 1.5V/3.3V card and will work in both types of slots with no damage.  the VSA-100 already IS a 1.5V capable part.  It is just that the MOTHERBOARDS AGP slot will not support the dual VSA-100 chips interface (without a bridge to negotiate) and so is gimped down to 1x/2x PCI66 no matter how hard you try......   BUT the V5/V4 cards with the extra slot WILL work in a 1.5V AGP board without a problem..... the older TNT type cards refered to before all had a set of physical jumpers to configure the card for 3.3V or 1.5V (but not both) and really WOULD dammage a board if not configured right.
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Rolo01

#19
16 October 2003, 22:39:39
I checked again, but my V5-5000 has no soldering points for a DVI output.
I bought this card from Boingball, a user at the x3dfx forum.
He got it directly from Reid as a gift...
I guess it could be an engineering sample, as there is the obvious NOT FOR RESALE sticker on the back...
 

amp_man

#20
17 October 2003, 03:26:57
okay, a fourth opinion? it appears the second and third conflict. anyone know if this card works @1.5V? (lecram you can jump in any time now, you prolly know better than i do)

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Nightbird

#21
17 October 2003, 03:56:41
@Hiero
the 3Dfx V4 4500 is a true card 1.5v/3.3v, verify in the bios of your mobo...
the problem can be the PowerColor 4500 TV : i own this card and this is a 3.3v, agp 2x

@Rolo01
i own a 5000 agp (2*16 mo sgram in sli) and this card runs like a 3.3v, agp 2x


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#22
17 October 2003, 04:55:30 Last Edit: 17 October 2003, 04:55:59 by Knuckles
guys, I'm ready to exchange my almost new Voodoo 5 5500 PCI for a Voodoo 4 PCI with TV-out if anyone interested ;) but still, a V4 with tv-out is great!

btw, my V5 pci have the places to put the DVI on it, is there any ways to add it (by someone)?
 

beta

#23
17 October 2003, 05:28:15
No the 1.5V key as well as the 3.3V key indicates AGP Universal 2.0.  I have never seen this problem where you plug in the Voodoo5 and your mobo goes into meltdown.  The slot will simply not allow you to istall the card.  The only exception being the AGP Pro slots hwere people have somehow manged to install none pro cards incorrectly!?  Hence the yellow warning label on Pro slots.

Anyone exchanging a Voodoo5 for a Voodoo4 is making a terrible mistake.  I have both cards and I can tell you the Voodoo4 is a complete con.  And was never worth the money.

Only the AGP Universal Voodoo4 and 5 PCB's have soldering points for DVI or S-Video.

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amp_man

#24
17 October 2003, 05:47:13
QuoteOriginally posted by beta

Only the AGP Universal Voodoo4 and 5 PCB's have soldering points for DVI or S-Video.

Should all the AGP universal V4/5 PCBs have DVI sodiering points? it sounds like his doesn't, but is universal

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hanksemenec

#25
17 October 2003, 16:37:37
Yes the notch means that 1.5V support is there. No, the card will not be destroyed when plugged into 4X only system. The IO voltage is sparated from 3.3V and takes VVDQ from the slot (3.3V or 1.5V).

Mainly, V4 does run AGP 4X protocol, that is the only one! If the card is notched with 1.5V key then it will run.

Hank
 

cosworth6k

#26
17 October 2003, 20:19:04
QuoteOriginally posted by hanksemenec

Yes the notch means that 1.5V support is there. No, the card will not be destroyed when plugged into 4X only system. The IO voltage is sparated from 3.3V and takes VVDQ from the slot (3.3V or 1.5V).

Mainly, V4 does run AGP 4X protocol, that is the only one! If the card is notched with 1.5V key then it will run.

Hank

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sloomy

#27
18 October 2003, 01:10:38
that means the card from  Rolo01 and my Voodoo5 will work on Intel i845pe chip motherboard from Dell,isn't it  ?

 

stupidwolf

#28
15 November 2003, 10:36:46
Hi, i got a card like yours. But my card is for MAC.
Can u send me your bios? I wanna to flash it as for PC.....
My email is is00zzp@hotmail.com


QuoteOriginally posted by sloomy

thanks for Qiuck replys and espec. @ lecram25 for exccellent pictures :)

I have also eventuell an VOodoo4 4500 PCI with this Bios Screen



this is the card:




Would that mean, that i have a Voodoo4 4500 PCi engineering sample for PC ? Or VOodoo Mac Versions can also show its Bios on a normal PC  ? Because after this BIos, i don't get any picture on my screen, until after 7 minutes or so this picture is showing



for 5 seconds than again nothing more  ?


Thanks for your answers and ideas

regards


 

hanksemenec

#29
15 November 2003, 10:53:14
Hi,

This is a prototype, never sold. It was keyed for 1.5V slot and it should operate in new motherboards.

Hank
 
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