Sugestions for VooDoo based projects

[Gorik]

Originally posted by perer

It may be MAD but how abour a dedicated T and L chip combined with a voodoo2-3-4-5. They have done it with a voodoo2 so they can do it with a voodoo3/4/5. But you would need a T_l chip, I don´t know but maybe you could use the Elan chip from videologic or for a voodoo3 a chip from Realvision. But a new chip like this needs a board. So that needs to be made. Yes and not to forget drivers!!!!!!!!!
As I sad this is a MAD idea, and probably will never be realized.

I heard that VSA-100 have a possible to connect a external T&L Unit and was in project to connect a Mitsubishi's IMPAC-GE (the chip was involved in the project of Diamond FireGL 5000), the project wasn't improve due some incompotabily issue... but maybe with some other unit ...

Anybody know something more?

Byex
Emiliano

[perer]

Where did you get this info from???
And I am thinking of things to do with the voodoo2.
Because like the vsa-100 it stil has potential. You can increase the memory, you can use sdram instead of edo-ram. Like the V5 you could make a voodoo5-6000 out of vsa-101 using DDR ram chips with a max of 256mb.
That special voodoo2 would have like 36mb pro card in SLI that is 72mb. Would have faster acces times using Sdram and uses 16mb pro TMU.
And would run better at High clockspeeds, and a better lay-out for cooling the chips. My dream machine!!!!! .
The voodoo2 is easy to realise in theory bu the vsa101 v5-6k is harde because the collectors won't sacrifice a rare board with vsa-101 chips. And if someone is that mad, maybe it would work-out in a right way.

[Rolo01]

There are other problems as well.
The VSA101 is not pin-compatible with the VSA100, so you cannot exchange the gpu´s. A V5-6000 with VSA101 and DDR would require a new PCB.

[lecram25]

Not to mention that it would really not be worth it.

VSA100 = 128bits SDR
VSA101 = 64bits DDR

[amp_man]

Originally posted by lecram25

Not to mention that it would really not be worth it.

VSA100 = 128bits SDR
VSA101 = 64bits DDR

The ONLY reason, IMOHO, to possibly do it would be to explore the higher OCing potential of the Daytona, and to use faster ram (because DDR's probably more available than SDR). But lecram25 is correct, you would wind up with (effectively) the same speed from SDR and DDR (half the data, twice as fast).

[gdonovan]

Originally posted by hanksemenec



1) V5 AGP 4X slot support
2) V5 more memory
3) 2x V5 SLI
4) 2x V5 6000 SLI

Some thoughts (and these are not pointed at Hank in general, just thinking out loud)-

1) Would be nice but 5500 will just operate in PCI-66 mode anyway and it's been proven by several hardware sites that the performance difference between 1x, 2x, 4x and 8x is negligable in *real world games*

2) Now this has possibilites- While just doubling the ram might have a negligable impact on performance combined with *faster ram* and re-clock to 183 or 200+ mhz would be great bang for the buck since the limitation of the 5500 to higher clocks is the ram not the VSA chip. No driver mods would have to be made either correct? Less to go wrong then.

3) Two 5500's in SLI would be... a V5-6000 =) I imagine two PCI cards would have to be used, *might* be a cheap alternative to purchasing a 6000 depending on final costs of mods and labor. I imagine driver mods would also have to be undertaken which violates KISS- Keep it simple stupid. Lots of work to duplicate 6000 performance.

4) Two 6000's in SLI? I'd pony up the cash but I'm a lunatic.

[gdonovan]

Originally posted by gdonovan

4) Two 6000's in SLI? I'd pony up the cash but I'm a lunatic.

Ho-Ho-HO! Had a better thought while I was out driving around-

Instead of V5-5500 SLI how about a quartet ala' Heavy Metal Mercury? =)

Four 5500's in a quad config I'd pay good money for, even better four clocked at 200 mhz >=)



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[Nightbird]

This is great and in theory less expensive

[secretfj]

but will this quad V5 make any performance difference?
seems they only operate seperately..

[perer]

Yes, but this is just an example how it looks like. It doesn't really work, and you would to modify those cards quite some bit to make it work.

@Hank weren't you working on a Voodoo5 6k with 256mb?

[hanksemenec]

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The Mitsubishi GE has been done before, but 3DFX never had time to do he microcode for it

Hank

[perer]

How powerful is that T&L chip? I assume it also works with a Voodoo2 or Voodoo4/5. If only we would have the money.

[napalm3dfx]

Hi All,

I am going to start working on VSA 100 based projects (mods).

I would like to get some feedback, what you would like to see first.

1) V5 AGP 4X slot support
2) V5 more memory
3) 2x V5 SLI
4) 2x V5 6000 SLI

What did happen with this MARAVELOUS IDEA? They Are cancelled off?

1) If I am not wrong this is not possible...
2) Is possible, but is very difficult to find mem (CHIP 32MB, 5ns and with the same PINOUT)

3) I like so much this option. Is feasible to put 2V5 PCI on SLI? This would be great!!! Perhaps this SLI must to be across SOFTWARE... I don't konw!!!Some new news about this?

4) To dream...

Please Hanksemenec, keep up the good work!!!

ps. Sorry for my POOR English!!!

[NitroX infinity]

UH, V5 5500 and 6000 use 8MB chips so you'd need 16MB chips, not 32;)

[napalm3dfx]

UH, V5 5500 and 6000 use 8MB chips so you'd need 16MB chips, not 32

You are right, sorry for this little mistake!