3DFX Voodoo5 5500 works on PCI-Express !!

[jix-reggio]

@sfft : do you want a sfft 1.6 test on XP32 with and without FSAA *2 on a V5500 Pci-E bridged ?

@oschkar : news about the pci dump of the Pericom and voodoo5 device ?

@M14radu : the dump of your PLX device indicates status 0010 so the bit 5 is set to 0, at opposite AGP device indicates status 0020 where bit 5 is effectively set to 1.

I read that during the init the conditions for 66 mhz Pci setting of the bridge would be :
1/ the 2 devices are tested on bit 5 set to 1
2/ The motherboard set a signal on the M66EN pin that must be returned.
So I would understand if isolating the M66EN works because the signal is not grounded ? (sorry for beeing a noob on electrical knowledge

A screen with my V5500 PLX in action on 3DM01 32 bits (same configuration than before):

[SuperFurryFurryThing]

Yes I would be interested in a test of a V5500 PCI over a single bridge. If we could compare results with another driver. Use set3tile.exe if running default 3dmark2001.

SFFT

[m14radu]

Jix-reggio: did you try to mask pin49b on your adapter ?
Same result as mine ?
( you have the same adapter as i. Right ?)
I am not at home these days to continue with the tests...


Thanks to everybody for your great support !

[jix-reggio]

@sfft : the 1.6 don't install correctly on win XP32 on my machine. Don't know why, maybe I would have cleaned all the previousdrivers and the win register (regedit) but I had not the time .

Description of the problem :
I installed after using Amiga 3 R11 and without cleaning the windows register. After setup boot, new drivers selected and reboot, the screen is blocked on 4 bits or 8 bits resolution. I remember it is for this reason that, on XP, I continued with Amiga 3.R11.

For Sffttools, maybe in february I made observations in the dedicated topic problems with the tools.

The 1.6 version was (in my mind) for Windows 7 32 bits, and it works great on this OS.

@M14radu : no sorry, I had not the time to try the tape on pin 49b

[SuperFurryFurryThing]

Sfft 1.6 definitely works on win XP 32. Run setup.exe and then use control panel to install the driver.

Sfft

[osckhar]

@jix-reggio,
Yes, I will. Sorry for delay, but I am busy!

@SFFT,
I can't test it yet because I need to find a V5 PCI. Odd, but I only have agp vers and only one pci model but it does not work well.

Anyway, I will test with set3tile.exe. I need to restart the PC each time I set "set3tile.exe"?

- Oscar.

[m14radu]

@jix-reggio: please check if your adapter work with this mod
There must be a way to force the PLX to work @66mhz.
Did you try to edit the register with wpcredit ?

[voodoo5k6]

hello,

I have found this adaptor :

Pciexpress8x to Pci-X

Very interesting...

Need to test it.

[m14radu]

Very nice adapter !
Please peform some benchmark and post the results.
Did you buy this adapter from a local shop?
Do you know where this adapter can be purchased ?
( ebay, store, ....)

[voodoo5k6]

I want to connect supermicro CSE-RR2UE-AX card on any motherboard ( with pci express 16x ).





Only on supermicro motherboard there is Supermicro Enhance Power Connector next to Pci express slot.

I want to find a solution any motherboard with pci express slot 8x or 16x.

How can i do ?

I have already PCI express 8x extender cable.

I need SEPC Cable ( Supermicro Enhance Power Connector ).

Where can i find it ? if anyone help me ?

(This adaptor allow to connect all voodoo 5 Pci or Agp card on any MB at 66 Mhz.)

thanks in advance

[jix-reggio]

As I thought, the tape on pin 49b didn't work.
@oschkar : can you post the pci dump of your pericom bridge and V5500 if it is running fine.

Any power user to explain why an insolator tape on pin 49b
supporting M66EN motherboard signal at the init would help to run @66 mhz ?
Or to explain how to proceed with pericom or plx bridge  ?
Thanks to share good ideas ...

[m14radu]

That is not good
I wait also for the pci dump from osckhar voodoo5 and bridge.
After that we can see what must be change.

I hope that we don't need to buy another adapter to have our voodoo5 running @66MHz

@jix-reggio: i use the utility "RW-Everything" for changing the registers.
Look here: http://jacky5488.myweb.hinet.net/

This tool must do the job now too

Here:
http://www.voodooalert.de/board/index.php?page=Thread&postID=314132#post314132

this video card GT430 PCI from Zotac uses the same PLX bridge.





Maybe the register status from this card can help us if this card runs @66MHz then we can use the same register configuration.

Would be also interesting to know the status of the pin49b on this card, and were this goes

[osckhar]

Here PCI DUMP but it will not help though.

Here isolating PIN49b

Dump] <- [6 - 00 - 0] <- [PCI Bus] <- SIV32X - System Information Viewer V4.22 3DFX::3Dfx Inc

Pericom Semiconductor  - Vendor ID 12D8-E111-00000000-02  size 0x1000  PCIe BAR 0xF0000000 (63)

           00        04        08        0C        10        14        18        1C        20        24        28        2C        30        34        38        3C
0000  E11112D8  00100107  06040002  00010004  00000000  00000000  40070706  22A0E1E1  EFF0EBF0  E7F1E001  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000080  00000000  000B0110
0040  09200020  00000000  0040801F  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  B8000800  00000000  00000080  00000000  00000000  00000000
0080  00009007  00000600  00100010  00100010  C843A801  00000000  00000000  00000000  0000B004  00010000  0000B00D  00000000  0071F010  00008022  001B2000  00003C11
00C0  30110040  00000000  01000000  04001060  04000271  00190254  0000F003  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00800005  00000000  00000000  00000000
0100  15010001  00000000  00000000  00062011  00002000  00002000  000000A0  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000008  000017A8  00001340  00000000  00000000
0140  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00010002  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  80000001  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
0180  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
...
02C0  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
0300  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  0127020B  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
0340  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
... repeated every 256 bytes
0F00  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
...
0FC0  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000

[  OK ]  [ Copy]  [Dump PCI][From 0K]

Here without isolate PIN49b

[Dump] <- [6 - 00 - 0] <- [PCI Bus] <- SIV32X - System Information Viewer V4.22 3DFX::3Dfx Inc

Pericom Semiconductor  - Vendor ID 12D8-E111-00000000-02  size 0x1000  PCIe BAR 0xF0000000 (63)

           00        04        08        0C        10        14        18        1C        20        24        28        2C        30        34        38        3C
0000  E11112D8  00100107  06040002  00010004  00000000  00000000  40070706  22A0E1E1  EFF0EBF0  E7F1E001  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000080  00000000  000B0110
0040  09200020  00000000  0040801F  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  B8000800  00000000  00000080  00000000  00000000  00000000
0080  00009007  00000600  00100010  00100010  C843A801  00000000  00000000  00000000  0000B004  00010000  0000B00D  00000000  0071F010  00008022  001B2000  00003C11
00C0  30110040  00000000  01000000  04001060  04000271  00190254  0000F003  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00800005  00000000  00000000  00000000
0100  15010001  00000000  00000000  00062011  00002000  00002000  000000A0  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000008  000017A8  00001340  00000000  00000000
0140  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00010002  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  80000001  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
0180  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
...
02C0  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
0300  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  0127020B  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
0340  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
... repeated every 256 bytes
0F00  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
...
0FC0  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000

[  OK ]  [ Copy]  [Dump PCI][From 0K]

[m14radu]

I try to change the register of the PLX chipset with the "RW-Everything" application.

Is ( 33MHz) : hx value of 0010 -> 0000 0000 0001 0000
Must ( 66Mhz ): hx value of 0030 -> 0000 0000 0011 0000

After changing the register, the value change itself automaticaly back in 1-2 seconds.


Well, this behaviour tells me that the register must be changed via hardware mod, and not with a simple software.

This is my PCI dump:

[Dump] <- [3 - 00 - 0] <- [PCI Bus] <- SIV32X - System Information Viewer V4.22 VOODOO::raducu

3Dfx Voodoo5 SGRAM PCI - Vendor ID 121A-0009-0003121A-01  size 0x1000  PCIe BAR 0xF8000000 (255)

           00        04        08        0C        10        14        18        1C        20        24        28        2C        30        34        38        3C
0000  0009121A  80B00003  03000001  00000000  F0000000  E8000008  0000B001  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  0003121A  00000000  00000060  00000000  00000110
0040  00000301  00000000  00000045  0000005F  00000000  00206002  00000000  00000000  00220001  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
0080  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
00C0  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000
0100  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF
... repeated every 256 bytes
0F00  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF
...
0FC0  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF  FFFFFFFF

[  OK ]  [ Copy]   [Dump PCI][From 0K]

[goriath]

There is no way to get hands on the plx's datasheet?

I seeked it for a lot but without success[B)]