I don't know what happend to Cirrus logic. Probably the competition of the PC platform is too high that there is no room for many companies. As i can remember, when the 3D graphics entered the PC market Cirrus logic and Trident couldn't follow the stream. I remember that Trident had made the Trident 3D but it didn't have much luck. The Voodoo era had already started:).
On the other hand, although i agree with you in general, i think i can understand why XGI aims to the top. They are not new in graphics bussiness. They have joined SiS and Trident to    create something really hi end. And besides if their products are cheap, they can be obtained by the average user too.
Remember AMD and Intel. AMD was cheap, Intel was the name. Now AMD managed to balance this factor.(and i like it:D). I hope this will happen to XGI too. For S3 i'm not afraid any more. Even if they fail, VIA has the ability to overcome the situation. For XGI i'm not so sure because this is the reason that 3DFX closed. Their investors hadn't the patiense to support them any more, when the trouble started.

I agree you with you and i hope that XGI will be a good competitor to others. Besides i'm glad that XGI boards use some Trident technology inside, because my first Graphics card was a Trident and i was very pleased with it. This era there were no 3D boards yet on the PC scene.
On the other hand, before the Voodoo3 that i own now, i had used for a while a Savage4 and i could play the same games with the Voodoo3. The only differense while playing games was that Voodoo3 aimed to the top while Savage4 aimed to the average user. You can't compare 3DFX with S3, because they aimed to different market. 3DFX aimed to the enthusiasts and S3 to the average user.
On the other hand,
The thing that i beleive that has changed to S3 is that the use technology from VIA, and VIA support their products. I have a VIA Apollo 133 on my motherboard and i still get updates for it, and that counts to me. I beleive that this will continue to their graphic cards too.
Closing the only thing that will make me to buy a Volari is that it has Dual GPUs and that's something that i like it very much, and that's why it will be my first choice.

Ok i found out what's wrong. The previous link doesn't work directly.
Use this link instead:
http://visuals.free.vovoid.com/vsx_download.e
and download the file VSX 0.433r.
It's only 90kb.
Sorry for the inconveniense.

I have posted again at page 12 of this forum a small example, that's why a said "some" applications. I didn't want to repeat myself.
I write again a link to a file that it can run OK with the default Amigasport 3.0 files, but with mesafx it reports the message "Can't find a suitable pixel format".
http://visuals.free.vovoid.com/vsx0433r.exe.
And to avoid some confusions. I don't advertise the site that contains the file. I't simply a small file that happened to have this problem and i thought it would be easy fo you to download.

I'm using Windows XP, Amigasport 3.0, Voodoo3 3000.

I can confirm that too. I get the error message
"Can't find a suitable pixel format", with some applications.
I've got a Voodoo3 only, so i can't tell about other 3DFX boards.

Hi
Congratulations on your work with MESAFX.
I have a Voodoo3 3000 with Amigamerlin 2.9 and I'd like to report a bug or something like that with Mesa.
Although some applications work fine when i rename the 3dfxogl.dll to opengl32.dll,
when i use all versions of the mesafx 5.1 dlls i get the message:
Can't create a GL Rendering context.


For example you could download this small file
http://visuals.free.vovoid.com/vsx0433r.exe

Keep up good work.

Hi
Congratulations on your work with MESAFX.
Since the subject of this top is Voodoo3 i posted my message here:D
I'd like to report a bug or something like that with Mesa.
I have a Voodoo3 with Amigamerlin 2.9
Although some applications work fine when i rename the 3dfxogl.dll to opengl32.dll,
when i use all versions of the mesafx 5.1 dlls i get the message:
Can't create a GL Rendering context.


For example you could download this small file
http://visuals.free.vovoid.com/vsx0433r.exe

Keep up good work.

I think that Nvidia and ATI were the first who tought the others about cheating.
On ther other hand, i have great expectations from S3 Deltachrome too.
I have used S3 graphic cards in the past and the only problem i had was that it was difficult to install the correct driver. When it was done, the result was satisfactional. Maybe they never achieved the quality of 3Dfx, but you get what you pay.
Anyway,
I hope i will be able too see these chips in Greece, because now everyone here uses GeForce and ATI cards.

There are people that think that $449 (plus tax), is rather inexpensive. This makes XGI's top model a good $50 less expensive than the flagship models of NVIDIA or ATI.
You could take a look to these reviews for volari too.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13188
http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031107/xgi-volari-21.html

In the first review it's mentioned the following:

A good start
XGI has definitely impressed us with its first card. It's not the fastest or greatest on the market but its damn good for the first card and don't let me start with Bosnian saying that includes throwing the first kittens in the river. I didn't expect to beat FX 5950 Ultra or Radeon 9800XT but it was not far away in some cases. It's all about the drivers and I believe that many applications will benefit from new drivers that will keep coming from XGI place in next weeks.

I think he is right, don't?
You can't create the fastest thing in a market in six months.
ATI and NVidia spent a lot of time and money to create the fastest GPU's all these years that they exist.
Only 3Dfx managed to do that from the beginning, but unfortunately the PC users didn't respect that and the company closed.
Anyway,
i hope Volari will manage to overcome ATI and NVidia in the following years.

There are people that think that $449 (plus tax), is rather inexpensive. This makes XGI's top model a good $50 less expensive than the flagship models of NVIDIA or ATI.
You could take a look to these reviews for volari too.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13188
http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031107/xgi-volari-21.html

In the first review it's mentioned the following:

A good start
XGI has definitely impressed us with its first card. It's not the fastest or greatest on the market but its damn good for the first card and don't let me start with Bosnian saying that includes throwing the first kittens in the river. I didn't expect to beat FX 5950 Ultra or Radeon 9800XT but it was not far away in some cases. It's all about the drivers and I believe that many applications will benefit from new drivers that will keep coming from XGI place in next weeks.

I agree with the don't you think?
You can't create the fastest thing in a market in six months.
ATI and NVidia spent a lot of money to create the fastest GPU's all these years that they exist.
Only 3Dfx managed to do that from the beginning, but unfortunately the PC users didn't respect that and the company closed.
Anyway,
i hope Volari will manage to overcome ATI and NVidia in the following years.

The game reports the following:

Quote
This sample requires functionality that is
not available on your Direct3D hardware
accelerator.
Switching to reference rasterizer a software
device that implements the entire Direct3D
feature set, but runs very slowly.

And so is done. It runs so slowly that i
don't have the patience to pass the
splash screen


My machine has the following hardware:

Quote
Voodoo 3 3000
Duron 1.2 MHz
256 MB RAM
Windows 98 SE

The site is http://www.konami-europe.com but they have support,
for the Pro Evolution Soccer which is problably the next version
of ISS3.
Since konami is a company for writing games mainly for consoles,
their support is not at the level of a PC Company .
About their config files, from a first look i found out they are not
in text format.
The problem is not the money. I could find a cheap GeForce 2 with 20Euro
and play the game, but i don't want to use Nvidia hardware in my PC[!]

Is it possible to power your drivers with a function
that would convert the 32bit colors to 16bit and back, so
that the voodoo3 would be compatible with newer games.
Of course the speed of the game would be lower, but
with a strong CPU it would be solved.
This could also be achieved with a small voodoo4 emulator for
voodoo3.
If knew C++ i would try by myself, but unfortunately i
like Delphi Better.
Anyway.
Good luck and keep up good work.
Your drivers and 3dfx hardware show everyone
how the PC graphics should be.

Hello everyone.
I have a voodoo3 and i'm trying to play ISS 3.
The problem is that although the game requires 8mb Video Ram,
it also needs 32 bit Rendering and of course i can't run it
on the Voodoo3.
Does anyone have any idea how to solve it?